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Gertrude Florence "True" McGhie

Gertrude Florence "True" McGhie

Female 1870 - 1894  (24 years)Deceased

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  • Name Gertrude Florence "True" McGhie  [1, 2
    Nickname True 
    Birth 25 Aug 1870  South Crosby,Leeds,Ontario,Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Female 
    Death 10 Sep 1894  [2, 3
    Headstones Submit Headstone Photo Submit Headstone Photo 
    Notes 
    • "True" was indeed Gertrude Florence McGhie (25 Aug 2870 - 10 Sept 1894). She had been engaged to Rev. Robert McAmmond, the brother of her sister Margaret's husband Dr. Fletcher McAmmond. She died before they married. He later moved to China to do 25 years of missionary work. Robert Houghton - 30 Apr 2020 [4]
    Person ID I16725  Rgstrong Family genes. | Descendants of Dr. Benjamin Thomas McGhie, 1811-1893, Descendants of Roger Stevens II, 1730-1808
    Last Modified 2 May 2020 

    Father AncestorsDr. Benjamin Thomas McGhie, M. D.,   b. 12 Jul 1811, Belfast,Antrim,Northern Ireland,United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 18 Oct 1893, Elgin,Leeds,Ontario,Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother AncestorsMercy Ophelia Stevens,   b. 31 Dec 1819, Stone Mills,Leeds,,Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 4 Feb 1903 (Age 83 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 14 Dec 1857  Beverley,Leeds,,Upper Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F5732  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - 25 Aug 1870 - South Crosby,Leeds,Ontario,Canada Link to Google Earth
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    Pin Legend Address Cemetery Farm Town Parish City County/Shire State/Province Country Region Not Set

  • Sources 
    1. [S1207] Houghton, Robert "Bob", UE, E-mail correspondence with Russell Strong. Privately held by Strong, [(E-ADDRESS) & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Robert "Bob" Houghton UE, Cambridge, ON [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Russell Strong, e-mail<; privately held by Strong, [(E-ADDRESS) & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Vicksburg, MI., 30 Apr 2020, 4/17/2020, 4:16 PM>, "Photo/Document Submission: Gertrude Florence McGhie (I16725)," (Reliability: 3).

      Photo/Document Submission: Gertrude Florence McGhie (I16725)
      Link: https://www.rgstrong-genes.com/getperson.php?personID=I16725&tree=rgstrong1

      Person's Name: Bob Houghton
      Attachment: True McGhie.jpg
      Description: Photo of Gertrude "True" McGhie

      Credit / Source: Family collection.
      Images provided by Robert Houghton, UE, 17 Apr 2020

    2. [S1208] Robert Houghton UE, "The McGhie family"; descendant report to Russell Strong, [STREET ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Vicksburg, MI, January 2000; pdf held by Robert Houghton UE, [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE], Cambridge, ON., 2 May 2020, p. 5 (Reliability: 3).

      Mercie Ermina Grace, b. Dec 5, 1896, m. Charles Wesley Houghton (1893-
      1963) on Sept 1, 1921, d. Oct 31, 1975.
      Children:
      Charles Ambrose, b. June 18, 1922, m. Jeanette Joyce (1924-2015) on Sept
      20, 1947, d. Dec 7, 2011, 3 children: Margaret, Carol, Bob.
      Robert Donald Bernard, b. 1926, d. 1967.

      George Stevens b. Jan 6, 1862, m. Elizabeth Florina "Libby" Leggatt (1868-?) on July 22, 1896, d. Aug 16, 1907

      Angelia Ophelia b. Sept 28, 1865, d. Oct 5, 1909 11. Lived with her parents until they died, moved Scottsville, NY to live with sister Margaret & Dr. McAmmond.

      Margaret Mercy b. Jun 27, 1867, d. 1940, m. Dr J. Fletcher McAmmond (1865-1929) on Aug 9, 1890
      Children:
      Helen Angelia McAmmond, b. Apr 1, 1893, d. Mar 22, 1943.
      Dr. John Fletcher McAmmond Jr, b. Feb 21, 1901, m. Mary Williams (1913-
      2001), d. Aug 14, 1983
      Children:
      Mary W (1935-2019)
      John Fletcher Jr (1937-2001)

      Robert McGhie McAmmond, b. Aug 3, 1905, m. Florence L. Walker (1905-
      1993), d. Aug 17, 1961.
      Children:
      Margaret Mercy (b. 1938)

      Gertrude Florence b. Aug 25, 1870, d. Sept 10, 1894

      William John "Willie" b. Oct 13, 1872, d. 1880

      * from the notes of Dr BT McGhie : With all his social and professional obligations, B.T. still did not forget his love for books. He often took time to read and even make notes about any new books he encountered. He was once offered the chair of the medical board of Queens University in Kingston but turned it down because of his age. He retired to his farms and raised horses, often showing them at local fairs. He was a Conservative, an Anglican, and a
      member of the Orange Lodge. Once, when Liberal politician D'Arcy McGee came to Elgin to speak, the doctor took an active stand against him. The "old doctor" died on October 18, 1893 after tripping on a rug, exclaiming "This is the end!" He was eighty-two years of age. He is buried with his second wife Mercy Ophelia at the cemetery in Elgin.
      ______________

      11 1871 census as Anselm 6, male - 1881 census lists Angelia 16, female (error?), no photos known, despite living until 1907, aged 43. Dr BT McGhie stated "she was rather delicate and never married". Was she physically or mentally disabled?

    3. [S13] Jill Fyffe rfyffe@peterboro.net, Descendants of Roger Stevens, b.1700, (Outline report 01/10/1999), pg. 5,paragraph A.2.n.(3) (Reliability: 0).

    4. [S1207] Houghton, Robert "Bob", UE, E-mail correspondence with Russell Strong. Privately held by Strong, [(E-ADDRESS) & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Robert "Bob" Houghton UE, Cambridge, ON [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Russell Strong, e-mail<; privately held by Strong, [(E-ADDRESS) & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] Vicksburg, MI., 1 May 2020, 4/30/2020, 9:26 AM>, "Re: Proposed Change: Dr. Benjamin Bernard Thomas McGhie, M.D. (I16728)," (Reliability: 3).
      Roberts reply to the question of the m. _________ TRUE husband as stated in the original source for Gertrude Florence McGhie (from the Jan 1999 document from Jill Fyffe).

      The info you mentioned:
      "True" was indeed Gertrude Florence McGhie (25 Aug 2870 - 10 Sept 1894). She had been engaged to Rev. Robert McAmmond, the brother of her sister Margaret's husband Dr. Fletcher McAmmond. She died before they married. He later moved to China to do 25 years of missionary work. I'll send you a pdf of my current research document, which includes named, dates, etc.
      My search these days, apart from looking into the Irish connection covered in Appendix 1, is to see if anyone has more information on BT & Mercy's 3rd child - Angelia Ophelia McGhie (Sept 28, 1865 - d. Oct 5, 1909). Considering she lived to be 44 - why are there no known photos of her? She lived with her parents until her mother died and then moved in with her sister Margaret in Scottsville, NY. She stayed there until she died. Reports speak of her being buried in NY yet there's also a tombstone in Elgin, Ontario. Where is she really? Her nephew Dr. Bernard T. McGhie referred to her as being "delicate" and that she never married. What did "delicate" mean back then? Could she have been disabled - mentally or physically? What's even stranger is that in the 1871 census, she is listed as Anselm McGhie and marked as male! In 1881, 1891, and 1901 the name is as we now know it and she's listed as female. The census taker seemed quite clear and specific too, with very good hand writing.

      Bob Houghton